Hi,
There has been some discussion on the card QEMU-414:
https://projects.linaro.org/browse/QEMU-414
about adding another CPU model to QEMU that is somewhat more advanced
than the current v8.0 offerings but isn't quite the rolling "all the ARM
you can eat" -cpu max. So far the primary interest I'm aware of has come
from people working on the SBSA and BSA reference platforms who want to
have something with a few more features than the base v8.0 spec which we
have covered.
So far we have been mostly focused on adding architectural features that
are of direct interest to kernel and user space developers. This has
allowed testing of code that uses SVE, MTE and BTI instructions. However
there are no real CPUs that have quite the "random" assortment of
ARM features QEMU currently implements.
Implementing a new CPU model is not free either. We would have to back
fill features we have currently skipped - some fairly simple and others
not so much. We might also have to implement new on-chip devices (for
example GICv4). We are also not interested in implementing a "only in
QEMU" chip that has no real world analogue.
However to decide on real world chip to model we need to gather
requirements about what is it potential users need in this model? What
architectural features are most interesting and what real world chip
meets them?
I would like to here any feedback and maybe this could be a topic for a
future sync-up call?
--
Alex Bennée
Hi Lorenzo, All,
Before potentially sending out an ECR for ACPI to require the _DSM that prevents
PCI related resource reassignment (in GI case), I thought I would do some experiments to
see if there is another potential solution (this obviously doesn't work for RMR case!)
Can we cache the state (BDF of each device) that the firmware has configured,
to build a hierarchical representation that we can then use to put figure
out the association after reenumeration? My assumption is this should be possible,
and the vIOMMU spec of JPB (which has the same BDF issue) kind of suggests
this solution. https://jpbrucker.net/virtio-iommu/viot/viot-v9.pdf
"This identifier corresponds to the one observed by the operating system when parsing the
PCI configuration space for the first time after boot"
So the problem I've run into is I can't actually build a test setup where the BDFs
of devices correctly configured by the firmware are changed. Note this is
all in QEMU with various hacks in EDK2 including enablement of root port padding
from OVMF (I'll post that for merging into EDK2 at somepoint because it's
useful.) Whilst qemu doesn't seem to allow hotplug of a PCIe switch I can plug
a pcie-pci-bridge to exercise pretty much the same code paths.
As an alternative, if we stop EDK2 from enabling a switch upstream port, the
kernel will attempt that later and it can go horribly wrong. Side questions
on whether we may want to look at hardening that code against random broken
situations. It's not high on my priority list but I might post an RFC on that
at some stage as it can take a working partial pci topology and end up with
nothing at all working as uses bus numbers multiple times.
But if the configuration is valid, I can't seem to actually build a setup where
the BDF changes. It's relatively easy to get the various other resources
to change (e.g. discussion on adding _DSM to qemu ACPI ongoing has some examples),
but not the BDF. https://lore.kernel.org/qemu-devel/20201217132926.4812-1-cenjiahui@huawei.c…
Obviously, nothing stops Linux or another OS doing this in future
if the _DSM isn't provided.
To a certain extend I don't really care if Linux does or doesn't re-enumerate
the bus numbers but being unable to make it happen does make it rather tricky
to build a PoC of the caching approach.
Any thoughts, or known configurations in which will change existing bus number
assignments? The code is fiddly so there are a few places where it looks
like it will but then turns out to not do so because of a sanity check elsewhere.
Jonathan
p.s. No rush on this as I'll be off until January from end of today.
On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:19 AM Vincent Guittot via Linaro-open-discussions <
linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org> wrote:
> On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 18:02, Lorenzo Pieralisi via
> Linaro-open-discussions <linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org>
> wrote:
> >
> > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:40:55PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > >
> > > Hi All,
> > >
> > > The previous thread has gotten rather convoluted, so I'm going to have
> a go at extracting
> > > a brief summary of topics and suggesting some straw man timings.
> > > These are all discussion topics, so name just indicates who I think
> will do the intro.
> > > Note I'd suggest we keep fairly tightly to timings and if it looks
> like a particular
> > > conversation is going long, we schedule a follow up.
> >
> > Hi Jonathan, all,
> >
> > thanks for the sync-up yesterday, I have already started following up
> > on some topics (ACPI CPU hotplug).
> >
> > I would like to put forward this topic for the next meeting agenda:
> >
> >
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20201201025944.18260-1-song.bao.hua@hisi…
> >
> > I think it is a discussion that would benefit from a conference like
> > discussion to add to mailing list discussions that already took place.
>
> I agree.
>
I will add it to the call scheduled for the second week of January, but we
can do something before then if needs be.
>
> >
> > Please let me know if that's feasible.
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Lorenzo
> >
> > > VLPI Migration support on Gic V4.1: lushenming (Huawei) - 15 mins
> > > Topic requested by Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM)
> > > In GICv4.1, migration has been supported except for
> (directly-injected)
> > > VLPI. And GICv4.1 spec explicitly gives a way to get the VLPI's
> pending
> > > state (which was crucially missing in GICv4.0). So we make VLPI
> migration
> > > capable on GICv4.1 in this patch set.
> > > (5 min) Intro to the work, then questions (10 min).
> > >
> > > vCPU HP: Salil Mehta (Huawei) 25 mins.
> > > Lorenzo has questions + it's an expansive topic.
> > > I would suggest interested people catch up with slides from KVM
> forum 2020
> > >
> https://kvmforum2020.sched.com/event/eE4m/challenges-in-supporting-virtual-…
> (video not public yet)
> > > (5 min) Open questions statement, then move to discussion.
> > >
> > > RMR related topics - follow up on last call: Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM) -
> 5 mins
> > > There were outstanding questions around whether PCIe reenumeration
> could
> > > cause problems here.
> > > (Lorenzo, Shameer, there were a few other open questions around this
> topic,
> > > do we have any other updates for Monday?)
> > >
> > > Generic Initiators: Jonathan Cameron (Huawei) - 5 mins
> > > Very brief intro to GIs + current status + opening for questions.
> > > More detail etc in this email.
> > >
> https://op-lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-open-discussions/2020-November…
> > >
> > > Ideally slides should go to Mike in advance to upload to the
> collaborate page.
> > >
> > > Anything I've missed?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > >
> > > Jonathan
> > >
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Mike.Holmes(a)linaro.org <mike.holmes(a)linaro.org>
"Work should be fun and collaborative, the rest follows"
Hi All,
It's a nice and productive meeting. Thanks to Anmar for the summary.
A small note:
> 17+ machines in CompassCI lab now. Maybe start with 1 machine for
Sorry that I didn't speak the "17" part clearly. In the conversation, I was talking about archlinux AUR packages that end with -git. I just double checked and find the number is "14k" not "17k". These PKGBUILD scripts are readily usable for running build tests for the upstream.
As for machines in our lab, you can see the exact list here:
https://gitee.com/wu_fengguang/lab-z9/tree/master/hosts
Thanks,
Fengguang
Hi,
The meeting minutes are summarized below. Thanks for attending.
MINUTES:
Vendor remote lab is interesting to openEuler for wide hardware coverage.
-
Leverage existing Linaro LKFT Lab + remote lab
-
e.g, NXP remote lab (shared by NXP, Linaro, KernelCI)
-
https://lavalab.nxp.com/
-
CompassCI also has plan for remote lab support
CompassCI also has the capability for bisecting support (the algorithm can
be universal to both kernel and user space applications). LKP itself
doesn’t have the bisecting capability. TuxSuite is focusing mainly on the
kernel part.
Paolo: is it functional or performance bisecting in CompassCI?
Fengguang: currently functional, performance support will be added later
CompassCI starts from upstream, and then downstream (so not only downstream
kernel).
Arch Linux package build is used by CompassCI, so it is easy to add
different kernel builds.
Scale testing with QEMU (e.g, run openEuler on Kunpeng 920, and run
multiple QEMU instances on openEuler), and it can be deployed via remote
lab. Fengguang: it is nice.
17+ machines in CompassCI lab now. Maybe start with 1 machine for
prototyping (the dispatcher can run on the same machine for QEMU case).
Anmar: the dispatcher is fully dockerized now, there should be no big issue
to run on openEuler.
Paolo: modularization can be helpful to merge the benefits of both
Paolo: Is the part for performance bisecting ready in CompassCI?
Fengguang: not yet
Paolo: maybe we can work together to have some common solution to avoid
reinventing the wheel. It’s under design for LKFT so it’s a good place for
us to collaborate.
Fengguang: Focus is on build now then the benchmark testing.
Anmar: the Linaro team and Fengguang to connect later on to make sure the
tool is useful for both CI systems.
Questions and Answers:
-
Q. Can LKP run without having to install packages or tests, only the job
definitions (scripts) ? If we can run tests without having to install the
pre-req every time, that will speed up testing if we use a rootfs that has
all its pre-req installed.
-
A. Compass CI has cpio archives it uses to overlay the tests
dependencies to speed the test runs. These overlays are pre-built and
available to the Compass-CI system
-
Q. We want to get a better understanding of the compare functionality
-
A. compare fetches different results and presents them. Nothing more.
-
Q. What are the plans for alignment with upstream LKP? By examining the
https://github.com/fengguang/lkp-tests and comparing it to
https://github.com/intel/lkp-tests.git, it seems the trees started
diverging in March 2020.
-
A. Fengguang’s LKP-tests repo is periodically re-based on the upstream
LKP-tests repo every couple of months. There is effort to push some of the
changes back upstream but been minimal so far. Most of the tests run on
Arm64 so from a testing perspective, Arm64 is well represented. It’s also
not clear if LKP will accept many patches at the moment. However, a
discussion needs to happen with the upstream at some point in time.
-
Q. How difficult is it to modularise the following LKP components:
-
Monitors
-
Tests
-
Test-plans
-
Email reports
-
Harmonizing output
-
Functional
-
Benchmark
-
Regression detection
-
A. LKP is already modularized and functions as a pipeline.
Regards,
Jammy
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 at 17:03, Jammy Zhou via Lkq-dev <
lkq-dev(a)op-lists.linaro.org> wrote:
> Hi All,
>
> We're going to have some follow up discussion about Compass CI and LKFT.
> Welcome to join.
>
> @Anmar, please help share the detailed agenda to the list when available.
>
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On Wed, Dec 09, 2020 at 09:14:46AM +0000, Jonathan Cameron via Linaro-open-discussions wrote:
> On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:35:57 +0000
> Mike Holmes via Linaro-open-discussions <linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org> wrote:
>
> > On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:19 AM Vincent Guittot via Linaro-open-discussions <
> > linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org> wrote:
> >
> > > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 18:02, Lorenzo Pieralisi via
> > > Linaro-open-discussions <linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org>
> > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:40:55PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > Hi All,
> > > > >
> > > > > The previous thread has gotten rather convoluted, so I'm going to have
> > > a go at extracting
> > > > > a brief summary of topics and suggesting some straw man timings.
> > > > > These are all discussion topics, so name just indicates who I think
> > > will do the intro.
> > > > > Note I'd suggest we keep fairly tightly to timings and if it looks
> > > like a particular
> > > > > conversation is going long, we schedule a follow up.
> > > >
> > > > Hi Jonathan, all,
> > > >
> > > > thanks for the sync-up yesterday, I have already started following up
> > > > on some topics (ACPI CPU hotplug).
> > > >
> > > > I would like to put forward this topic for the next meeting agenda:
> > > >
> > > >
> > > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20201201025944.18260-1-song.bao.hua@hisi…
> > > >
> > > > I think it is a discussion that would benefit from a conference like
> > > > discussion to add to mailing list discussions that already took place.
> > >
> > > I agree.
> > >
> >
> > I will add it to the call scheduled for the second week of January, but we
> > can do something before then if needs be.
>
> Sounds good. We'd kept clear of proposing this one previously because it
> was still at an early stage. Things have now moved on a bit on the lists so
> I agree it makes sense to have a discussion around this topic.
>
> There is an added complexity timing wise. Clearly we need Barry Song
> (song bao hua) and he is based in New Zealand so normal time isn't going to
> work. To be sensible, needs to end by 10am UK time.
>
> So to pin down a time, who do we need for this topic + who is interested?
>
> From our side I'd suggest
>
> Need: Barry (NZ),
>
> Interested:
> Various UK and China based people including me :)
>
> Vincent and Lorenzo both expressed interest (both in Europe I think?)
+4-5 ARM folks (me inclusive) - all based in Europe.
Thanks,
Lorenzo
> Thanks,
>
> Jonathan
Hi All,
The previous thread has gotten rather convoluted, so I'm going to have a go at extracting
a brief summary of topics and suggesting some straw man timings.
These are all discussion topics, so name just indicates who I think will do the intro.
Note I'd suggest we keep fairly tightly to timings and if it looks like a particular
conversation is going long, we schedule a follow up.
VLPI Migration support on Gic V4.1: lushenming (Huawei) - 15 mins
Topic requested by Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM)
In GICv4.1, migration has been supported except for (directly-injected)
VLPI. And GICv4.1 spec explicitly gives a way to get the VLPI's pending
state (which was crucially missing in GICv4.0). So we make VLPI migration
capable on GICv4.1 in this patch set.
(5 min) Intro to the work, then questions (10 min).
vCPU HP: Salil Mehta (Huawei) 25 mins.
Lorenzo has questions + it's an expansive topic.
I would suggest interested people catch up with slides from KVM forum 2020
https://kvmforum2020.sched.com/event/eE4m/challenges-in-supporting-virtual-… (video not public yet)
(5 min) Open questions statement, then move to discussion.
RMR related topics - follow up on last call: Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM) - 5 mins
There were outstanding questions around whether PCIe reenumeration could
cause problems here.
(Lorenzo, Shameer, there were a few other open questions around this topic,
do we have any other updates for Monday?)
Generic Initiators: Jonathan Cameron (Huawei) - 5 mins
Very brief intro to GIs + current status + opening for questions.
More detail etc in this email.
https://op-lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-open-discussions/2020-November…
Ideally slides should go to Mike in advance to upload to the collaborate page.
Anything I've missed?
Thanks,
Jonathan
On Wed, 9 Dec 2020 08:35:57 +0000
Mike Holmes via Linaro-open-discussions <linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org> wrote:
> On Wed, Dec 9, 2020 at 8:19 AM Vincent Guittot via Linaro-open-discussions <
> linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org> wrote:
>
> > On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 18:02, Lorenzo Pieralisi via
> > Linaro-open-discussions <linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org>
> > wrote:
> > >
> > > On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:40:55PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> > > >
> > > > Hi All,
> > > >
> > > > The previous thread has gotten rather convoluted, so I'm going to have
> > a go at extracting
> > > > a brief summary of topics and suggesting some straw man timings.
> > > > These are all discussion topics, so name just indicates who I think
> > will do the intro.
> > > > Note I'd suggest we keep fairly tightly to timings and if it looks
> > like a particular
> > > > conversation is going long, we schedule a follow up.
> > >
> > > Hi Jonathan, all,
> > >
> > > thanks for the sync-up yesterday, I have already started following up
> > > on some topics (ACPI CPU hotplug).
> > >
> > > I would like to put forward this topic for the next meeting agenda:
> > >
> > >
> > https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20201201025944.18260-1-song.bao.hua@hisi…
> > >
> > > I think it is a discussion that would benefit from a conference like
> > > discussion to add to mailing list discussions that already took place.
> >
> > I agree.
> >
>
> I will add it to the call scheduled for the second week of January, but we
> can do something before then if needs be.
Sounds good. We'd kept clear of proposing this one previously because it
was still at an early stage. Things have now moved on a bit on the lists so
I agree it makes sense to have a discussion around this topic.
There is an added complexity timing wise. Clearly we need Barry Song
(song bao hua) and he is based in New Zealand so normal time isn't going to
work. To be sensible, needs to end by 10am UK time.
So to pin down a time, who do we need for this topic + who is interested?
From our side I'd suggest
Need: Barry (NZ),
Interested:
Various UK and China based people including me :)
Vincent and Lorenzo both expressed interest (both in Europe I think?)
Thanks,
Jonathan
>
>
> >
> > >
> > > Please let me know if that's feasible.
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Lorenzo
> > >
> > > > VLPI Migration support on Gic V4.1: lushenming (Huawei) - 15 mins
> > > > Topic requested by Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM)
> > > > In GICv4.1, migration has been supported except for
> > (directly-injected)
> > > > VLPI. And GICv4.1 spec explicitly gives a way to get the VLPI's
> > pending
> > > > state (which was crucially missing in GICv4.0). So we make VLPI
> > migration
> > > > capable on GICv4.1 in this patch set.
> > > > (5 min) Intro to the work, then questions (10 min).
> > > >
> > > > vCPU HP: Salil Mehta (Huawei) 25 mins.
> > > > Lorenzo has questions + it's an expansive topic.
> > > > I would suggest interested people catch up with slides from KVM
> > forum 2020
> > > >
> > https://kvmforum2020.sched.com/event/eE4m/challenges-in-supporting-virtual-…
> > (video not public yet)
> > > > (5 min) Open questions statement, then move to discussion.
> > > >
> > > > RMR related topics - follow up on last call: Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM) -
> > 5 mins
> > > > There were outstanding questions around whether PCIe reenumeration
> > could
> > > > cause problems here.
> > > > (Lorenzo, Shameer, there were a few other open questions around this
> > topic,
> > > > do we have any other updates for Monday?)
> > > >
> > > > Generic Initiators: Jonathan Cameron (Huawei) - 5 mins
> > > > Very brief intro to GIs + current status + opening for questions.
> > > > More detail etc in this email.
> > > >
> > https://op-lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-open-discussions/2020-November…
> > > >
> > > > Ideally slides should go to Mike in advance to upload to the
> > collaborate page.
> > > >
> > > > Anything I've missed?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks,
> > > >
> > > > Jonathan
> > > >
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>
Hi All,
We're going to have some follow up discussion about Compass CI and LKFT.
Welcome to join.
@Anmar, please help share the detailed agenda to the list when available.
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On Tue, 8 Dec 2020 at 18:02, Lorenzo Pieralisi via
Linaro-open-discussions <linaro-open-discussions(a)op-lists.linaro.org>
wrote:
>
> On Thu, Dec 03, 2020 at 01:40:55PM +0000, Jonathan Cameron wrote:
> >
> > Hi All,
> >
> > The previous thread has gotten rather convoluted, so I'm going to have a go at extracting
> > a brief summary of topics and suggesting some straw man timings.
> > These are all discussion topics, so name just indicates who I think will do the intro.
> > Note I'd suggest we keep fairly tightly to timings and if it looks like a particular
> > conversation is going long, we schedule a follow up.
>
> Hi Jonathan, all,
>
> thanks for the sync-up yesterday, I have already started following up
> on some topics (ACPI CPU hotplug).
>
> I would like to put forward this topic for the next meeting agenda:
>
> https://lore.kernel.org/linux-acpi/20201201025944.18260-1-song.bao.hua@hisi…
>
> I think it is a discussion that would benefit from a conference like
> discussion to add to mailing list discussions that already took place.
I agree.
>
> Please let me know if that's feasible.
>
> Thanks,
> Lorenzo
>
> > VLPI Migration support on Gic V4.1: lushenming (Huawei) - 15 mins
> > Topic requested by Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM)
> > In GICv4.1, migration has been supported except for (directly-injected)
> > VLPI. And GICv4.1 spec explicitly gives a way to get the VLPI's pending
> > state (which was crucially missing in GICv4.0). So we make VLPI migration
> > capable on GICv4.1 in this patch set.
> > (5 min) Intro to the work, then questions (10 min).
> >
> > vCPU HP: Salil Mehta (Huawei) 25 mins.
> > Lorenzo has questions + it's an expansive topic.
> > I would suggest interested people catch up with slides from KVM forum 2020
> > https://kvmforum2020.sched.com/event/eE4m/challenges-in-supporting-virtual-… (video not public yet)
> > (5 min) Open questions statement, then move to discussion.
> >
> > RMR related topics - follow up on last call: Lorenzo Pieralisi (ARM) - 5 mins
> > There were outstanding questions around whether PCIe reenumeration could
> > cause problems here.
> > (Lorenzo, Shameer, there were a few other open questions around this topic,
> > do we have any other updates for Monday?)
> >
> > Generic Initiators: Jonathan Cameron (Huawei) - 5 mins
> > Very brief intro to GIs + current status + opening for questions.
> > More detail etc in this email.
> > https://op-lists.linaro.org/pipermail/linaro-open-discussions/2020-November…
> >
> > Ideally slides should go to Mike in advance to upload to the collaborate page.
> >
> > Anything I've missed?
> >
> > Thanks,
> >
> > Jonathan
> >
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